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Major setback

Oct 03, 2008, 07:06 AM [Reply]

Dear reader,

I'd like to start this post with the general announcement that I noticed that I posted TOO often on my blog to read for everyone. So I will reduce the number of posts I make on this blog to once every 2 days with a threshold on de number of reads of 50 reads. I think if my last topic got around 50 reads, it's time to post something new. This doesn't mean I spend less time on my blog, in fact, it wil improve the quality of my posts because I had more time to think them through.

Now Ontopic:

Yesterday I had a conversation with the foundation that is providing me with volunteer work and support to re-intergrate to "normal" work. This conversation was about the fact that I wish to do a Career-track education that will make it more likely for me to find a fitting job in ICT. Because I became ill while I was doing my bachelor in ICT, I in fact only have a Highschool diploma and some certificates at bachelor level, but not a bachelor's degree. 

Well, a full bachelor's degree might be to much to ask for in this life for me, not that I wouldn't be able to understand it, my intelligence is OK and not affected by my dissease, but the stress that comes with a Bachelor level education is just too much for me now, I just can't cope it anymore.

But in the Netherlands we have many diffrent levels of education. Bachelor is called HBO (translated: Higher Professional Education) and Master is just called University or WO (translated: Scientific Education). But there's also a level lower called MBO (Average Professional Education) and between HBO and MBO there is special training courses at MBO+ level which is what I am aiming for. 

I wish to do the EXIN Career Track of Certified Network Administrator which, if I get a certificate from also grants me the certificate of Certified Systems Administrator. I feel that if I got these two certificates my chances of ever getting back to a normal working life a greatly enhanced. 

At the moment I get a form of Social Security Fee specially designed for people with Chronic Illness that they got while still in school, if you already had at least 2 years of working experience you'd get another form of wellfare fee based on you last income. But mine is the first one which is based upon minimum wage. I get almost a 900 euros a month on my account (after taxes that is) but minimum wage for 36 hours is still a little more with 1335 euro's per month before tax deduction (that will leave around 1080 euro after taxes).

Well this institution that is paying my wellfare check had an arrangement for people willing to reïntergrate to normal work again, where they would get training and study paid to increase the chance of succes on a normal job. This was a fine arrangement, because maybe they pay like 7000 euro's to educate somebody in my situation but if I work 20 hours a week after that, the part they pay me to get a normal income is so low compaired to a full wellfare cheque, that they would have earned the money back within the first year.

But NOW we have this STUPID STEALING RATS for a goverment and they changed all kinds of policies and laws around my type of social security fee collectors... NOW it seems that the intitute that is paying me my wellfare will rather pay that to me for the rest of my life then to really actively help reïntergrate me. 

The carreer track I really want to do (CNA and CSA) costs about 6500 euro's together this is peanuts you'd think, but I don't have that kind of money. And if my goverment is not sponsorring me, I can forget about going back to school all together, thus minimizing the chance of ever getting a regular job. And all of that because I got schizophrenia... which ofcourse is a severe dissease, but it's not like I'm teminally ill or something... I can function normally when I just use my prescribed medication. The only thing is that I need more rest than most people, so I can't work fulltime ... 20 tot 24 hours a week at most. 

 

So this is what they told me yesterday: "The chance of the government paying for your study is less than 1% because you already finished highschool and that should be enough to find a parttime job, only not in your field of expertise... but the government doesn't care about that." ... So what they're actually saying, that I - while partially educated as software designer and system administrator, I have management skills and a IQ over 140 ... And with those qualification they want me to work behind the counter or in the factory? I mean nothing bad about people who work in the factory, factory workers are needed and do usefull jobs, but to me personally I had a diffrent carreer in mind. 

I'm really fucked up about this. But I wont give up. I'll knock on every goverment door there is about these matters, I will even write the state-secretary a letter if I have to ... But I will do that education because I want to do something meaningfull with my life, instead of kicking the wellfare like I've done for the past 7 years.

 

Sorry, this was a really long story, but if you read this: THANK YOU VERY MUCH for taking the time to do so.

Life is what you make it.

Oct 03, 2008, 08:02 AM [Reply]

The best of luck to you Zen. And I understand to well about the gov. not willing help pay for your training. Always remember " Where there's a will there's a way"

" Your only as old as the woman you feel "

Oct 03, 2008, 08:16 AM [Reply]

yep pretty unfair that you educate your self to a degree of expertice that you get a kick back like that..with the problems you have and the amount of work you are capable off seems like the perfect oppertunity to work from home doing some thing regarding computing that suits your life style and needs...and in this day and age there are quite a lot of people that do work from home and there for may suit in the level of work load you can cope with.but finding the job to work from home is not always easy..maybe split between work at home and a work place would suit best.

but its unfair that your treated this way when you have these disabiltys in life.

be persistant in what you want to achieve rather than being pushed into a corner...

all the best wish,s to you and your family.......

take care

laters byeeeeeeeeeeeeee

its just mad being mad-its just crazy being crazy-but its great just being me

Oct 03, 2008, 06:30 PM [Reply]

good luck my dear...

I wish you got what you want... and don't give up..

In dreams and love there are no impossibilities

Oct 03, 2008, 09:03 PM [Reply]

You make me feel like I am lucky because i did get approved for student loans, though it isnt much--1750.00 a semester, which is about two and a half months. But If I go to school almost full time-- i could get a free education-- and the student loans would cover my living expenses---But i have a kid and who will pay for babysitting?-- thats 450.00 a month. Even my part time job would not pay for that--- Its hard to decide what to do... Getting an education is important though. Take what you can get. You dont show signs of schizophrenia-- so it sucks they know all of your financial situation. You could be self employeed with out an educatio, start a business of your own:) and not have to work all of the time. Peace.

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  • 2008-10-04 06:05:13
  • Zendex
  • In fact I am CEO of a foundation I founded myself with some friends... But since this is a non-profit orginasation, I'm not really getting any money out of it just yet. Tomorrow I will post a topic about the foundation I run.

  • Life is what you make it.
  • 2008-10-04 06:09:09
  • Zendex
  • And about me showing signs of schizophrenia ... well, you never met me when I had a psychosis ... cause then I'm totally diffrent. Since I've had two psychotic episodes that each lasted longer than 6 months, I'm classified according to the DSM to Paranoid Schizophrenia (which is the least severe form of schizophrenia b.t.w.) ... but as long as I use my medication, you wouldn't notice.

  • Life is what you make it.

via con dios

Oct 03, 2008, 09:05 PM [Reply]

Factory work sucks. (though someone has to do it)

via con dios

Oct 04, 2008, 11:49 AM [Reply]

good luck my friend....and it wasn't that long..it's good to tell ur friend about ur self..........good luck

Be Palestinian or Die Trying

Oct 05, 2008, 05:58 AM [Reply]

Wow...never think of that situation. Good luck and do your best

never think before saying a word.

Oct 05, 2008, 08:51 AM [Reply]

Just keep fight for it, if someday you feel like giving up.. DONT!!

::Carpé diem ad multam noctum::

 

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